“Dutch KLM Pilot Mark Juch shares his UFO (UAP) close encounter. He has been silent for more than two decades but finally speaks out about his UFO sighting with the YouTube channel BLCKBX. When he talks about his UAP experience it gives him goosebumps.”
Thanks for sharing, Alfred. The stigma that kept Mark Juch for telling his story for 25 years needs to end. If the Gillibrand UAP bill passes, hopefully it can establish reporting norms that will encourage governments around the world to compile accessible databases. There will be patterns buried within those reports that will help us understand exactly what we're dealing with.
Mystery Wire has a new post including the " unwieldy" name for the new "UAP" Program that was recently started....It's mission statement generally refers to "evolving technologies" by Russia and China that we should be attuned to. Nothing about technologies that are far beyond anything terrestrial. Does anyone think that this new name minus a more easily recognized acronym was designed to thwart public interest in the subject???Per Gerorge Knapp, ..Elizondo's Twitter page proclaims that the structure equates to a nothing burger which will be no different than the usual obfuscation by the Pentagon for the past 50 years....Kevin Randle's blog has stated on more than 1 occasion that the expectation will result in a "Condon II" ..Our government and our military are hopeless , and cannot or refuse to help themselves..... but continue to have the advantage of keeping its citizens in the dark by their deception ...What an effin joke!!
Addendum...Earlier today,, Randle posted the details of the new program.Read the last 2 paragraphis regarding his conclusions....He couldn't have stated it any better.
Billy, you're fortunate that there are no loonies yet drawn to your new blog
Chris Melon wrote an open letter this date to Rep Gallegos which he published on his blog.He closed the comments portion after 1 wacky posted 4 consecutive copy and paste variety delusional pieces of word salad..I'm sure he was fully anticipating the likes of Michael Horn to contribute as well.....It sorta discourages others to weigh in..Leslie Kean deleted a good portion of comments a few months ago on her FB page because there were several off topic political replies in one of her posts...Dont the blog administrators have the authority to simply censor and delete inappropriate content??.Perhaps Melon isn't aware of this, though he did delete several fake saucer photos that Horn displayed about 3 months ago. It's really discouraging to the participants on his blog
I found a link via Popular Mechanics to SA4281, which seemed to be the same thing(?)
Even being optimistic, I can't help but recall the Blue Book anecdote of the cameras with the diffraction gratings that kept falling off. It could take the whole 6 years for such a broad scope effort to get everything right...
Will grabbing the best (available) individuals, and putting them on field investigations, work without being specifically trained or apprised of what to expect? Will all the data sharing (assuming everyone plays ball) be 'fused' together i.e. radar data with visual observations and geographical data? Or will they be analysed separately? Will classified sensor systems prevent data-fusion if the analysts don't have a high enough clearance?
Will they have a case management system (database) to record details, actions and results for future reference as an archive? (Also useful for other agencies to check against an overlap with secret projects.)
Will they include follow-up interviews with regard to previously reported paranormal phenomena that occur after some UAP events (or is that a step too far)?
How dependent will the project be on bureaucratic co-operation and military personnel who have no investigative training or experience - and most probably no expertise in handling sensor data. (It's one thing for a panel of experts to analyse the cumulative output (think Robertson Panel), but are the skills available to gather and present all the available data in a useful manner? n.b. The French Sigma 2 3AF had to approach a professional programmer to provide that type of expertise in regard to a few specific cases.) Perhaps they should approach MITRE corporation (MSEA).
(Whenever someone asks why we don't have definitive proof after all this time (other than witness testimony), this is why. It's not simple at all.)
All great questions. And again, I think the first step should involve the public release and evaluation of the Lacatski/DIA files -- we could probably learn a lot about what to do and what to avoid.
I can tell you with absolute certainty from personal experience that the ChiComm's were extremely interested in anything and everything to do with the ET/UFO phenomenon in the early 2000's.
So I think the only reason they have "ghosted from the informal multinational UFO scene" is because they found enough of what they were looking for, and the high level brass put the kaibash on any further participation.
Rest assured that just like our high level actors, the Chinese weren't interested due to humanitarian reasons. Quite the opposite.
Chris Mellon's possible position if this happens, is interesting.
Larry, maybe they too were "warned" (the Phenomenon wouldn't distinguish) very early on re their nukes and nuclear tech./ships etc. , had a multiple of hitchhiker effects which would of course freak out such a controlling mentality as they are and realised you can't deal with it, so we'll just grab as best we can around the world, like the Asia-Pacific now. But I'd guess they'd also try for a shoot down to try to acquire the tech./materials. It would be in character.
Alan, I have no idea what they have or have not found out over the past 20 years. I was just postulating based on their known proclivities.
What I do know is that Nixon's 2 biggest f*ckups were taking the dollar off of the gold standard, and opening up China. Both of which were directed and ordered by the money masters. So that was going to happen one way or another, regardless.
Mainland China is now only communist in name only. It is now a classic example of fascism. And the rest of the world is now following suit.
Isn't it simply astounding that there are a very small % of readers who are well versed on the UAP topic.As far as the mainstream news media and the general public....They could care less
Most readers are far more concerned with the more mundane and "normal" aspects of their daily lives, than they are with the "paranormal" ET/UFO topic.
However, if it was sold to them as a threat to their normal lives, they would quickly become very interested. Even though most of them would still remain far from well versed.
Eh, that and other reasons are why the Pentagon keeps a lid on it...but its the wrong way to go.We could have been exterminated a long time ago if the " phenomenon " had a malevolent intent.It may upset our collective world views, but I belive that most on this thread have already had their views flipped a long time ago.
There haven't been any successful shoot downs to the best of my knowledge, either by us or our adversaries.There was a documented attempt by Iran in 1976, but the firing mechanism on the fighter jet mysteriously jammed...similar to attempts by us to get a successful lock down on the phenomena in 2004 and 2015..What is more disturbing was when the Fravor team headed back to their cap point and the tic tac was already awaiting their arrival to that location ..... only a very few in the tactical team knew the location , nor was the same broadcast on ther radios.....Very weird and paranormal
Sure, I remember both, just amazing points in these cases. In the Vallee-Davis paper (the Six-layer Model paper for UAPs) the Iran case seems to fit Layer 1 (physical effects), "gives rise to electric, magnetic and gravitational disturbances" affecting the jet. The Fravor Cap point one seems harder to classify, did the Tic-Tac read the minds of the pilots to get exactly to the Cap point, Layer V (psychic), "maneuvers of a UAP appearing to anticipate the witness’ thoughts", or was it monitoring normal communications to do a kind of "surprise, surprise! I'm here!" thingy.
Hope Ok to post this, a great short film sci-fi about a Russian drone operator, The Occupant. Trying to capture a UAP. Has psychic and physical effects.
"The pushback will come from vested interests for whom exposure could spell existential peril"(??)....Ya mean like the MIC, the fossil fuel industry, the elite science disciplines who will become more entrenched in their arrogant positions , the religious fundamentalists in Congress and the Pentagon, the naïve but complicit mainstream news media, and the lesser foes including the likes of Michael Shermer, Oberg and DeGrasse Tyson.....I can just envision the stonewalling, including legal maneuvering from the A/F ...et al
And let’s hope the U.S. government start interviewing airline pilots.
Here’s an interview with a KLM pilot:
UFO Video Report & TV Interview:
“Dutch KLM Pilot Shares
His UFO/UAP Encounter”
Published: 14 June 2021
Source: Lions Ground (YouTube channel)
This is a BLCKBX.tv (the Netherlands) interview.
Video text:
“Dutch KLM Pilot Mark Juch shares his UFO (UAP) close encounter. He has been silent for more than two decades but finally speaks out about his UFO sighting with the YouTube channel BLCKBX. When he talks about his UAP experience it gives him goosebumps.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE2hv3qgbac
Thanks for sharing, Alfred. The stigma that kept Mark Juch for telling his story for 25 years needs to end. If the Gillibrand UAP bill passes, hopefully it can establish reporting norms that will encourage governments around the world to compile accessible databases. There will be patterns buried within those reports that will help us understand exactly what we're dealing with.
Yes, accessible government databases would have been great, Billy. France, Sweden, and Chile have government UFO databases.
Mystery Wire has a new post including the " unwieldy" name for the new "UAP" Program that was recently started....It's mission statement generally refers to "evolving technologies" by Russia and China that we should be attuned to. Nothing about technologies that are far beyond anything terrestrial. Does anyone think that this new name minus a more easily recognized acronym was designed to thwart public interest in the subject???Per Gerorge Knapp, ..Elizondo's Twitter page proclaims that the structure equates to a nothing burger which will be no different than the usual obfuscation by the Pentagon for the past 50 years....Kevin Randle's blog has stated on more than 1 occasion that the expectation will result in a "Condon II" ..Our government and our military are hopeless , and cannot or refuse to help themselves..... but continue to have the advantage of keeping its citizens in the dark by their deception ...What an effin joke!!
Addendum...Earlier today,, Randle posted the details of the new program.Read the last 2 paragraphis regarding his conclusions....He couldn't have stated it any better.
Billy, you're fortunate that there are no loonies yet drawn to your new blog
Chris Melon wrote an open letter this date to Rep Gallegos which he published on his blog.He closed the comments portion after 1 wacky posted 4 consecutive copy and paste variety delusional pieces of word salad..I'm sure he was fully anticipating the likes of Michael Horn to contribute as well.....It sorta discourages others to weigh in..Leslie Kean deleted a good portion of comments a few months ago on her FB page because there were several off topic political replies in one of her posts...Dont the blog administrators have the authority to simply censor and delete inappropriate content??.Perhaps Melon isn't aware of this, though he did delete several fake saucer photos that Horn displayed about 3 months ago. It's really discouraging to the participants on his blog
I found a link via Popular Mechanics to SA4281, which seemed to be the same thing(?)
Even being optimistic, I can't help but recall the Blue Book anecdote of the cameras with the diffraction gratings that kept falling off. It could take the whole 6 years for such a broad scope effort to get everything right...
Will grabbing the best (available) individuals, and putting them on field investigations, work without being specifically trained or apprised of what to expect? Will all the data sharing (assuming everyone plays ball) be 'fused' together i.e. radar data with visual observations and geographical data? Or will they be analysed separately? Will classified sensor systems prevent data-fusion if the analysts don't have a high enough clearance?
Will they have a case management system (database) to record details, actions and results for future reference as an archive? (Also useful for other agencies to check against an overlap with secret projects.)
Will they include follow-up interviews with regard to previously reported paranormal phenomena that occur after some UAP events (or is that a step too far)?
How dependent will the project be on bureaucratic co-operation and military personnel who have no investigative training or experience - and most probably no expertise in handling sensor data. (It's one thing for a panel of experts to analyse the cumulative output (think Robertson Panel), but are the skills available to gather and present all the available data in a useful manner? n.b. The French Sigma 2 3AF had to approach a professional programmer to provide that type of expertise in regard to a few specific cases.) Perhaps they should approach MITRE corporation (MSEA).
(Whenever someone asks why we don't have definitive proof after all this time (other than witness testimony), this is why. It's not simple at all.)
All great questions. And again, I think the first step should involve the public release and evaluation of the Lacatski/DIA files -- we could probably learn a lot about what to do and what to avoid.
Billy.
I can tell you with absolute certainty from personal experience that the ChiComm's were extremely interested in anything and everything to do with the ET/UFO phenomenon in the early 2000's.
So I think the only reason they have "ghosted from the informal multinational UFO scene" is because they found enough of what they were looking for, and the high level brass put the kaibash on any further participation.
Rest assured that just like our high level actors, the Chinese weren't interested due to humanitarian reasons. Quite the opposite.
Chris Mellon's possible position if this happens, is interesting.
Larry, maybe they too were "warned" (the Phenomenon wouldn't distinguish) very early on re their nukes and nuclear tech./ships etc. , had a multiple of hitchhiker effects which would of course freak out such a controlling mentality as they are and realised you can't deal with it, so we'll just grab as best we can around the world, like the Asia-Pacific now. But I'd guess they'd also try for a shoot down to try to acquire the tech./materials. It would be in character.
Alan, I have no idea what they have or have not found out over the past 20 years. I was just postulating based on their known proclivities.
What I do know is that Nixon's 2 biggest f*ckups were taking the dollar off of the gold standard, and opening up China. Both of which were directed and ordered by the money masters. So that was going to happen one way or another, regardless.
Mainland China is now only communist in name only. It is now a classic example of fascism. And the rest of the world is now following suit.
Isn't it simply astounding that there are a very small % of readers who are well versed on the UAP topic.As far as the mainstream news media and the general public....They could care less
Not to me, Joe.
Most readers are far more concerned with the more mundane and "normal" aspects of their daily lives, than they are with the "paranormal" ET/UFO topic.
However, if it was sold to them as a threat to their normal lives, they would quickly become very interested. Even though most of them would still remain far from well versed.
Eh, that and other reasons are why the Pentagon keeps a lid on it...but its the wrong way to go.We could have been exterminated a long time ago if the " phenomenon " had a malevolent intent.It may upset our collective world views, but I belive that most on this thread have already had their views flipped a long time ago.
Enslavement is far more preferable than extermination.
There haven't been any successful shoot downs to the best of my knowledge, either by us or our adversaries.There was a documented attempt by Iran in 1976, but the firing mechanism on the fighter jet mysteriously jammed...similar to attempts by us to get a successful lock down on the phenomena in 2004 and 2015..What is more disturbing was when the Fravor team headed back to their cap point and the tic tac was already awaiting their arrival to that location ..... only a very few in the tactical team knew the location , nor was the same broadcast on ther radios.....Very weird and paranormal
Sure, I remember both, just amazing points in these cases. In the Vallee-Davis paper (the Six-layer Model paper for UAPs) the Iran case seems to fit Layer 1 (physical effects), "gives rise to electric, magnetic and gravitational disturbances" affecting the jet. The Fravor Cap point one seems harder to classify, did the Tic-Tac read the minds of the pilots to get exactly to the Cap point, Layer V (psychic), "maneuvers of a UAP appearing to anticipate the witness’ thoughts", or was it monitoring normal communications to do a kind of "surprise, surprise! I'm here!" thingy.
Hope Ok to post this, a great short film sci-fi about a Russian drone operator, The Occupant. Trying to capture a UAP. Has psychic and physical effects.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puMxZauG8sg
Thanks for posting this little gem. "They're two steps ahead of us." At least.
ha!ha! Yes.
"The pushback will come from vested interests for whom exposure could spell existential peril"(??)....Ya mean like the MIC, the fossil fuel industry, the elite science disciplines who will become more entrenched in their arrogant positions , the religious fundamentalists in Congress and the Pentagon, the naïve but complicit mainstream news media, and the lesser foes including the likes of Michael Shermer, Oberg and DeGrasse Tyson.....I can just envision the stonewalling, including legal maneuvering from the A/F ...et al