I think the assumption that we're dealing with alien visitors is the root of misunderstanding regarding UFO intervention with nuclear arsenal/power. I don’t think we’re actually being visited by ETs. It just appears that way from our point of view. Yes, they're “extraterrestrial” or “ultraterrestrial,” or whatever you want to call them, and they're much more advanced - that's obvious - but they’ve always been here.
They likely spread throughout the Galaxy long ago. I think their interactions with us are more about our emergence into their world via technological advancement. They’re not "space brothers” come to save us, but they’re not completely alien either. There is a relation. I think ET nuclear intervention on Earth is just “foreign policy” of a much different kind, on a much different level than we’re accustomed. I think they’re acting in self-interest and protecting their assets here on Earth. I think it’s time we start questioning the assumption that this is “our” planet.
I knew Dave Schuur. We were both together in the 455th Strategic Missile Wing at Minot AFB, although we were in different squadrons. We never knew at the time that we both had an "experience," until we met up together at an Air Force reunion in September 2011. We were both Minuteman ICBM Launch Control Officers, and I had an experience in September 1966 when I relieved a launch Crew at November Flight where all ten of their nuclear tipped missiles were taken off "alert" and made unlaunchable by a UFO. The commander of that crew was forced to sign a non-disclosure agreement and he is still alive, but is too frightened to talk. He spent 10 years at the Pentagon after Minot, and retired after 28 years of service. I and my crewmate took over responsibility to help coordinate bringing those missiles back to alert status, and the AFOSI told us verbally that "as far as you are concerned, It Never Happened!" We were commanded to never talk about the incident again, or talk to each other about it. I'll accept "whistle blower" status on this, and will testify in front of Congress, although that will probably be when hell freezes over, or when Congress or some other government agency finds the fortitude to do what is right.
Billy, you are probably one of the few journalists out there that remembers Dennis Kucinich getting humiliated during a 2007 presidential primary debate simply because he said that he saw an object in the sky that he could not identify. Bravo, for remembering!
I remember it well because Tim Russert came out of left field with that one, so unexpected. What a conflicted moment. I was buoyed on one hand because I never dreamed Mr. Beltway Insider would utter the dreaded 'U' word, then I got pissed when he made no attempt to follow up, that it was just a lazy way to punk a tanking outlier candidacy. Kucinich didn't help himself by trying to roll with it, either. But that exchange, however constipated, gave me hope. For a moment.
It was a snarky, arrogant low-blow by an establishment lap dog pretending to be an investigative journalist. ( And recall what happened to him. ) Plus, Kucinich never spoke about the incident publicly. Shirley Mac. first revealed it in her book.
I was at a Minot Bravo site with an experiencer. She and two other girls were within 200 yards in 1988 as a UFO came out of launch lid and hovered 25 feet over the site. The other. two girls ran back to Karlsruhe and the experiencer peed her pants. Was involved in a couple other big sightings.
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It might seem too fringe to accept, but my information is that World Wars 1 and 2 ( both phases of one war) involved 'powers and principalities' that were participants in a defining battle for the future of the world. Axis power scientists were, for a while, neck and neck with ours in developing The Bomb. Can you imagine the world had Herr Hitler and his cohorts got it first?
If we can grant plausibility to the idea that ET is not only technologically but also morally and spiritually far in advance, then not interfering when the bombs were used against Japan must have been a recognized, but perhaps saddening, necessity.
However, we had it from people such as Alfredo Peregro, a highly respected Italian diplomat who was one of the contactees in Amicizia, the Friendship case, that ET did indeed intervene to prevent nuclear war between the US and USSR during the 1950s Berlin Crisis.
Not to downplay the horror, deaths and destruction, but the two bombs on Japan were firecrackers compared to today's thermonuclear monsters.
"Axis power scientists were, for a while, neck and neck with ours in developing The Bomb"
From the Farm Hall Transcripts where some top German nuclear scientists were kept in the UK after the war and secretly recorded they didn't get far theoretically and definitely not technologically. They were shocked when told of the Japan bombs.
If "something" can interfere with nukes surely does raise the question why they didn't stop the bombs. I have read there was increased presence on Earth after Japan so maybe the two bombs caught their attention? As did the first one surely in the New Mexico desert. So why didn't they stop the Enola Gay plane on course for Hiroshima? ... either 1. didn't know 2. approved the mission. 3. couldn't stop it anyway. 4. didn't care. Seem the only options logically.
Alan. I think I made it clear. ET did not interfere with the nukes on Japan because they understood it was necessary, although tragic, to end the war. It was also within The Law (of Cause & Effect, ie, Karma.)
It's also my understanding that the US firebombing air raids did more overall damage to infrastructure than the two nukes - not that I'm choosing one horror over another.
Recall that I wrote certain "powers and principalities" were, behind the scenes, involved in the World War.
re: The Farm Hall Transcripts. My information is that a group of enlightened beings (who supported the Allied forces) deflected the mental powers of knowledge and discovery (a definite form of energy) away from the German nuclear scientists, leading to a form of mental paralysis. Thus their failure and surprise later at the Allied success.
It will be very interesting to see how far the nukes question goes. Perhaps they'll go into closed session if they get that far. I've always been fascinated by the Phenomena's interest in nuclear weapons. I'm aware many surmise They are either trying to save themselves from us or trying to warn us. I don't buy that at all. I think the detonation of nukes and possibly nuclear power wreaks havoc with whatever physics is utilized by the Phenomena making it difficult for them in ways we don't currently understand.
Hi Gino. We had it from some of the 'early contactees' that certain frequencies of nuclear radiation are toxic to ET's (and to us, by the way) and might have been what caused a few UFO crashes back in the '40s, until they developed a method to protect themselves. Also, the energies and radiation from an all out nuclear war would travel far into space, disrupting the 'energy currents' utilized by ET spacecraft. So, their interest in nukes is twofold: to protect us, and them.
The article peripherally raises the question of who's running the UFO show in the USAF: Air Force Office of Special Investigations; Secretary of the Air Force, etc. The Pentagon has lots of fiefdoms, but none that seem to wield the power of this one.
Maybe it's a hive-mind bureaucracy. No one's actually in charge, and the honeycomb creates intricate divisions of labor, where blame and credit can be distributed equally.
The organization of the coverup is as hard to fathom as the phenomenon itself. The hive idea could be entirely possible. To believe otherwise is to think that generations of active overseers have come and gone and kept the truth locked up, a family business, father to son, keeping the continuing ritual of deceit on track. I don't know where one draws the line at "too weird" any more.
Another, well-written, detailed piece in your (many years long) coverage of UFOs and Nukes. How many missleers are waiting in the wings to tell their respective stories? I suspect the 167 witnesses that Robert has uncovered is but a small fraction.
Hard to see this process going forward without congressional amnesty. I remember during the '90s where the Clinton admin offered immunity to Roswell witnesses, but by then it was too late.
I think the assumption that we're dealing with alien visitors is the root of misunderstanding regarding UFO intervention with nuclear arsenal/power. I don’t think we’re actually being visited by ETs. It just appears that way from our point of view. Yes, they're “extraterrestrial” or “ultraterrestrial,” or whatever you want to call them, and they're much more advanced - that's obvious - but they’ve always been here.
They likely spread throughout the Galaxy long ago. I think their interactions with us are more about our emergence into their world via technological advancement. They’re not "space brothers” come to save us, but they’re not completely alien either. There is a relation. I think ET nuclear intervention on Earth is just “foreign policy” of a much different kind, on a much different level than we’re accustomed. I think they’re acting in self-interest and protecting their assets here on Earth. I think it’s time we start questioning the assumption that this is “our” planet.
I knew Dave Schuur. We were both together in the 455th Strategic Missile Wing at Minot AFB, although we were in different squadrons. We never knew at the time that we both had an "experience," until we met up together at an Air Force reunion in September 2011. We were both Minuteman ICBM Launch Control Officers, and I had an experience in September 1966 when I relieved a launch Crew at November Flight where all ten of their nuclear tipped missiles were taken off "alert" and made unlaunchable by a UFO. The commander of that crew was forced to sign a non-disclosure agreement and he is still alive, but is too frightened to talk. He spent 10 years at the Pentagon after Minot, and retired after 28 years of service. I and my crewmate took over responsibility to help coordinate bringing those missiles back to alert status, and the AFOSI told us verbally that "as far as you are concerned, It Never Happened!" We were commanded to never talk about the incident again, or talk to each other about it. I'll accept "whistle blower" status on this, and will testify in front of Congress, although that will probably be when hell freezes over, or when Congress or some other government agency finds the fortitude to do what is right.
Thanks so much for sharing your story, David. You and your fellow veterans deserve a Congressional audience, and I hope you get it -- soon.
Billy, you are probably one of the few journalists out there that remembers Dennis Kucinich getting humiliated during a 2007 presidential primary debate simply because he said that he saw an object in the sky that he could not identify. Bravo, for remembering!
I remember it well because Tim Russert came out of left field with that one, so unexpected. What a conflicted moment. I was buoyed on one hand because I never dreamed Mr. Beltway Insider would utter the dreaded 'U' word, then I got pissed when he made no attempt to follow up, that it was just a lazy way to punk a tanking outlier candidacy. Kucinich didn't help himself by trying to roll with it, either. But that exchange, however constipated, gave me hope. For a moment.
It was a snarky, arrogant low-blow by an establishment lap dog pretending to be an investigative journalist. ( And recall what happened to him. ) Plus, Kucinich never spoke about the incident publicly. Shirley Mac. first revealed it in her book.
I was at a Minot Bravo site with an experiencer. She and two other girls were within 200 yards in 1988 as a UFO came out of launch lid and hovered 25 feet over the site. The other. two girls ran back to Karlsruhe and the experiencer peed her pants. Was involved in a couple other big sightings.
Yeah, I'm sure the They're Here To Save Us From Nukes theme plays really well in Japan.
It might seem too fringe to accept, but my information is that World Wars 1 and 2 ( both phases of one war) involved 'powers and principalities' that were participants in a defining battle for the future of the world. Axis power scientists were, for a while, neck and neck with ours in developing The Bomb. Can you imagine the world had Herr Hitler and his cohorts got it first?
If we can grant plausibility to the idea that ET is not only technologically but also morally and spiritually far in advance, then not interfering when the bombs were used against Japan must have been a recognized, but perhaps saddening, necessity.
However, we had it from people such as Alfredo Peregro, a highly respected Italian diplomat who was one of the contactees in Amicizia, the Friendship case, that ET did indeed intervene to prevent nuclear war between the US and USSR during the 1950s Berlin Crisis.
Not to downplay the horror, deaths and destruction, but the two bombs on Japan were firecrackers compared to today's thermonuclear monsters.
Bill, it is a fascinating idea, whether there's been outside interference in wars.
"Axis power scientists were, for a while, neck and neck with ours in developing The Bomb"
From the Farm Hall Transcripts where some top German nuclear scientists were kept in the UK after the war and secretly recorded they didn't get far theoretically and definitely not technologically. They were shocked when told of the Japan bombs.
If "something" can interfere with nukes surely does raise the question why they didn't stop the bombs. I have read there was increased presence on Earth after Japan so maybe the two bombs caught their attention? As did the first one surely in the New Mexico desert. So why didn't they stop the Enola Gay plane on course for Hiroshima? ... either 1. didn't know 2. approved the mission. 3. couldn't stop it anyway. 4. didn't care. Seem the only options logically.
Alan. I think I made it clear. ET did not interfere with the nukes on Japan because they understood it was necessary, although tragic, to end the war. It was also within The Law (of Cause & Effect, ie, Karma.)
It's also my understanding that the US firebombing air raids did more overall damage to infrastructure than the two nukes - not that I'm choosing one horror over another.
Terrible times Bill.
In for a penny, in for a pound.
Recall that I wrote certain "powers and principalities" were, behind the scenes, involved in the World War.
re: The Farm Hall Transcripts. My information is that a group of enlightened beings (who supported the Allied forces) deflected the mental powers of knowledge and discovery (a definite form of energy) away from the German nuclear scientists, leading to a form of mental paralysis. Thus their failure and surprise later at the Allied success.
It will be very interesting to see how far the nukes question goes. Perhaps they'll go into closed session if they get that far. I've always been fascinated by the Phenomena's interest in nuclear weapons. I'm aware many surmise They are either trying to save themselves from us or trying to warn us. I don't buy that at all. I think the detonation of nukes and possibly nuclear power wreaks havoc with whatever physics is utilized by the Phenomena making it difficult for them in ways we don't currently understand.
Hi Gino. We had it from some of the 'early contactees' that certain frequencies of nuclear radiation are toxic to ET's (and to us, by the way) and might have been what caused a few UFO crashes back in the '40s, until they developed a method to protect themselves. Also, the energies and radiation from an all out nuclear war would travel far into space, disrupting the 'energy currents' utilized by ET spacecraft. So, their interest in nukes is twofold: to protect us, and them.
The article peripherally raises the question of who's running the UFO show in the USAF: Air Force Office of Special Investigations; Secretary of the Air Force, etc. The Pentagon has lots of fiefdoms, but none that seem to wield the power of this one.
Maybe it's a hive-mind bureaucracy. No one's actually in charge, and the honeycomb creates intricate divisions of labor, where blame and credit can be distributed equally.
The organization of the coverup is as hard to fathom as the phenomenon itself. The hive idea could be entirely possible. To believe otherwise is to think that generations of active overseers have come and gone and kept the truth locked up, a family business, father to son, keeping the continuing ritual of deceit on track. I don't know where one draws the line at "too weird" any more.
Mornin' Billy,
Another, well-written, detailed piece in your (many years long) coverage of UFOs and Nukes. How many missleers are waiting in the wings to tell their respective stories? I suspect the 167 witnesses that Robert has uncovered is but a small fraction.
Thanks for keeping the fire burning. Covfefe!
Cheers,
Frank
Editor/Publisher
The UFO Chronicles
Hard to see this process going forward without congressional amnesty. I remember during the '90s where the Clinton admin offered immunity to Roswell witnesses, but by then it was too late.