I thought the hearing today was damn good. It would be great if Grusch completely spilled the beans in a public setting. There's going to be one helluva book contract for him someday. Billy should ghost it for him for at least seven figures.
The small cabal knowing everything about the UFO/UAP phenomena will never, ever give disclosure. The cabal (said to number less than ten) Is composed of extremely wealthy government, former government and private defense contractor officials. They are above any American or international law. It is believed that George H. W. Bush was a member of this cabal. Despite increased interest, we will learn nothing new from examination by committee or mandating legislation. Laws passed will be ignored. The MSM is under instructions to continue it's 'apathy.'
"If ratified, it will give feds the power to assert eminent domain “over any and all recovered technologies of unknown origin and biological evidence of non-human intelligence that may be controlled by private persons or entities in the interests of the public good.""
I thought we believer types OPPOSED the men in black. Now we're trying to give them the legal right to ransack our homes? Guess I have to read that whole bill to see if there's a provision to return the stolen items to those they were stolen from, or if there are any other context which would mitigate such a tyrannical power.
I know we all want Disclosure <gasp> <tears of joy>, but when giving power to a government, always ask yourself if you want the opposition party to have that power. Because if they don't today, they will tomorrow.
So is this bill just a power-grab in the name of transparency? After all, Schumer has a long demonstrated record of attempted anti-constitutionalism. And government per se - and the US government in particular - has a long demonstrated record of antipathy to the idea of alien visitation.
Like it or not, eminent domain was inserted into the Constitution in 1789, and 49 states have similar provisions. The key points involve compensation and "public use." I dunno how you'd begin to put a price tag on alien vehicles, but the seizure must be justified for the greater public interest. Either way, if push comes to shove, it'll probably be locked up in court far longer than my attention span can accommodate. Unless you've got ET transmitters in your attic, I can think of scarier things to worry about.
All true enough, but the fact that eminent domain is in the Constitution doesn't guarantee that it's a good thing and that we should ask for more of it.
We'd better hope it'd get locked up in court, loudly and publicly, because here are just some of the problems that I can think of right now. While I 95% believe we're being visited/surveilled, the likelihood of anyone having alien tech is near-zero. What worries me are the pretenses available to rogue anti-Constitutional agencies. I suppose most possibly a Robertson Panel form of harassment against the 'UFO groups' which might still be under surveillance.
But pricing alien tech is just the iceberg tip. Under what conditions does the government accuse someone of having it in the first place? And how does the government plan to search for something like that?
As to the unlikelihood of anyone having more than a few small un-recovered pieces of likely-alien tech (a la Ubatuba or Dalnegorsk Russia), aliens advanced enough to travel in non-Newtonian ships would certainly have some advanced equivalent to radio comms, cellphones, black boxes, search and rescue, crash investigations and materials retrieval.
And they are very unlikely to selectively gift tech to some human governments, or even some individuals, while denying it to others - that'd be a very dangerous geopolitical absurdity, and therefore an intervention of a type they don't seem to commit.
Nobody even THINKS of this stuff! Even in the middle of 2023 we auto-accept the absurd premise - we never even question it! - that advanced aliens would helplessly wait to die alone where the primitive humans who are usually denied access to their bodies and wreckage - will eventually find their bodies and wreckage. This sub-cartoon fantasy surely comes from the mid-20th century when a crash of a plane or car could go undiscovered for years or decades.
So realistically, we're in a starry-eyed emotional state and asking the government to exert MORE power OVER OURSELVES in the name of handling a crash scenario or a gifting policy which is almost 100% guaranteed to never ever exist.
Somebody please explain to the rest of us how that's a good thing.
About the Controlled Disclosure Campaign Plan link in your article. On a quick look Billy it looks like the Archivist will have access to every UAP record and the 9 member Review Board (with "necessary security clearances and accesses" ) will decide what gets released to the public. Grounds for non-disclosure seem pretty wide (national security) under SEC._06 (1) and there's personal privacy issues which is correct. But it looks like a lot will come out. And every one will be an "unidentified anomalous phenomena" with at least one of the "five observables" according to the definitions they give. It's surely going to be a feast.
I'm thinking the same thing. "Disclosure" is a tricky term, but we've already had "acknowledgement," which is the first step. The more eyes on this, the greater the chances for internal debate. And with the operating presumption that all UAP docs are releasable, we will inevitably learn some fairly shocking things. Assuming, of course, that Schumer's amendment passes.
Have to disagree about the Pentagon resistance "crumbling." The congressional folk who got turned back by the military is an example, and that general is a lower-level, expendable guy. Somebody's got his back. Those at the top of the coverup are even more entrenched in keeping The Secret, and certainly better protected. It would take a scorched earth offensive by Congress to get anything out of this, and while they talk a good game there's zero evidence they're going to go to the mattresses over this. Especially with an election year coming up when they have their careers to protect.
Perhaps the conspiracy is deeper. I hate to say it because it’s Q-Anonish, but maybe They have infiltrated the government? I’ve always said the Phenomena controls disclosure. IMO if they’re ET they’re not friendly. Otherwise they’re something much stranger, perhaps in the Vallee vein of thinking.
As Alice said, "it's curiouser and curiouser". Not sure if there's any connection but I was on a ZOOM earlier this week with MAPA (MassachusettsPeaceAssoc.) on the militarization of space. Bruce Gagnon was the guest speaker. Someone in the chat mentioned UFOs.
I remember Bruce always getting arrested, like at a cruise missile plant in Titusville with some hibakusha looking on. The last time I saw Bruce was (I think) his leading a protest against the plutonium-powered Cassini in 97. If he wants to talk UFOs, tell him I said hey.
That'd be cool. Kinda sucks, though, when you don't have a newspaper footing the bill anymore. But hey, it'll probably be televised on a C-Span channel, and peanut gallery seats are cheap.
“‘Congress now knows they’ve been shut out for a long time, and that’s why they’re calling for legislation. And I think that’s great.’”
Now, Congress must show who’s the boss.
Podcast UFO episode:
“07-11-23 Admiral Tim Gallaudet, (ret) on UAP/USOs & Avi Loeb, Spherules of Interstellar Expedition”
My comment:
Retired Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet attended the 26 July 2023 UAP hearings.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gTf6az6B1lg
I thought the hearing today was damn good. It would be great if Grusch completely spilled the beans in a public setting. There's going to be one helluva book contract for him someday. Billy should ghost it for him for at least seven figures.
I'm not that cheap anymore, man.
The small cabal knowing everything about the UFO/UAP phenomena will never, ever give disclosure. The cabal (said to number less than ten) Is composed of extremely wealthy government, former government and private defense contractor officials. They are above any American or international law. It is believed that George H. W. Bush was a member of this cabal. Despite increased interest, we will learn nothing new from examination by committee or mandating legislation. Laws passed will be ignored. The MSM is under instructions to continue it's 'apathy.'
Looks like somebody forgot to pay off NewsNation.
Great comment, Billy.
Thank you for tipping me off to this:
"If ratified, it will give feds the power to assert eminent domain “over any and all recovered technologies of unknown origin and biological evidence of non-human intelligence that may be controlled by private persons or entities in the interests of the public good.""
I thought we believer types OPPOSED the men in black. Now we're trying to give them the legal right to ransack our homes? Guess I have to read that whole bill to see if there's a provision to return the stolen items to those they were stolen from, or if there are any other context which would mitigate such a tyrannical power.
I know we all want Disclosure <gasp> <tears of joy>, but when giving power to a government, always ask yourself if you want the opposition party to have that power. Because if they don't today, they will tomorrow.
So is this bill just a power-grab in the name of transparency? After all, Schumer has a long demonstrated record of attempted anti-constitutionalism. And government per se - and the US government in particular - has a long demonstrated record of antipathy to the idea of alien visitation.
Like it or not, eminent domain was inserted into the Constitution in 1789, and 49 states have similar provisions. The key points involve compensation and "public use." I dunno how you'd begin to put a price tag on alien vehicles, but the seizure must be justified for the greater public interest. Either way, if push comes to shove, it'll probably be locked up in court far longer than my attention span can accommodate. Unless you've got ET transmitters in your attic, I can think of scarier things to worry about.
All true enough, but the fact that eminent domain is in the Constitution doesn't guarantee that it's a good thing and that we should ask for more of it.
We'd better hope it'd get locked up in court, loudly and publicly, because here are just some of the problems that I can think of right now. While I 95% believe we're being visited/surveilled, the likelihood of anyone having alien tech is near-zero. What worries me are the pretenses available to rogue anti-Constitutional agencies. I suppose most possibly a Robertson Panel form of harassment against the 'UFO groups' which might still be under surveillance.
But pricing alien tech is just the iceberg tip. Under what conditions does the government accuse someone of having it in the first place? And how does the government plan to search for something like that?
As to the unlikelihood of anyone having more than a few small un-recovered pieces of likely-alien tech (a la Ubatuba or Dalnegorsk Russia), aliens advanced enough to travel in non-Newtonian ships would certainly have some advanced equivalent to radio comms, cellphones, black boxes, search and rescue, crash investigations and materials retrieval.
And they are very unlikely to selectively gift tech to some human governments, or even some individuals, while denying it to others - that'd be a very dangerous geopolitical absurdity, and therefore an intervention of a type they don't seem to commit.
Nobody even THINKS of this stuff! Even in the middle of 2023 we auto-accept the absurd premise - we never even question it! - that advanced aliens would helplessly wait to die alone where the primitive humans who are usually denied access to their bodies and wreckage - will eventually find their bodies and wreckage. This sub-cartoon fantasy surely comes from the mid-20th century when a crash of a plane or car could go undiscovered for years or decades.
So realistically, we're in a starry-eyed emotional state and asking the government to exert MORE power OVER OURSELVES in the name of handling a crash scenario or a gifting policy which is almost 100% guaranteed to never ever exist.
Somebody please explain to the rest of us how that's a good thing.
OK, Vara, seriously, between you and me -- what are you hiding? I gots to know.
I'm actually trying to make what I think is a legitimate and important point that we should be careful what we ask for because we might get it.
Agreed. We need wisdom and I hope we're up to it.
I hope so too.
"I dunno how you'd begin to put a price tag on alien vehicles" - speed? light years per gallon? overall look?
Great one, Billy.
Regarding UFO related fatalities, certainly there were military planes shot down (or vaporized) by UFOs during the “Shoot ‘em down” years.
I'd be surprised if that data was archived. If I'd been calling the shots from the inside back then, I would've dumped it all in the shredder.
About the Controlled Disclosure Campaign Plan link in your article. On a quick look Billy it looks like the Archivist will have access to every UAP record and the 9 member Review Board (with "necessary security clearances and accesses" ) will decide what gets released to the public. Grounds for non-disclosure seem pretty wide (national security) under SEC._06 (1) and there's personal privacy issues which is correct. But it looks like a lot will come out. And every one will be an "unidentified anomalous phenomena" with at least one of the "five observables" according to the definitions they give. It's surely going to be a feast.
I'm thinking the same thing. "Disclosure" is a tricky term, but we've already had "acknowledgement," which is the first step. The more eyes on this, the greater the chances for internal debate. And with the operating presumption that all UAP docs are releasable, we will inevitably learn some fairly shocking things. Assuming, of course, that Schumer's amendment passes.
That would be something, huge.
And thanks for the article!
Have to disagree about the Pentagon resistance "crumbling." The congressional folk who got turned back by the military is an example, and that general is a lower-level, expendable guy. Somebody's got his back. Those at the top of the coverup are even more entrenched in keeping The Secret, and certainly better protected. It would take a scorched earth offensive by Congress to get anything out of this, and while they talk a good game there's zero evidence they're going to go to the mattresses over this. Especially with an election year coming up when they have their careers to protect.
Perhaps the conspiracy is deeper. I hate to say it because it’s Q-Anonish, but maybe They have infiltrated the government? I’ve always said the Phenomena controls disclosure. IMO if they’re ET they’re not friendly. Otherwise they’re something much stranger, perhaps in the Vallee vein of thinking.
Great. Now I won't sleep tonight. Thanks.
Your columns have kept me up a few nights. You started it!
You're probably right, Ropr. I'm predicting a lot of cards are gonna start falling, and my predictions are always wrong.
As Alice said, "it's curiouser and curiouser". Not sure if there's any connection but I was on a ZOOM earlier this week with MAPA (MassachusettsPeaceAssoc.) on the militarization of space. Bruce Gagnon was the guest speaker. Someone in the chat mentioned UFOs.
I remember Bruce always getting arrested, like at a cruise missile plant in Titusville with some hibakusha looking on. The last time I saw Bruce was (I think) his leading a protest against the plutonium-powered Cassini in 97. If he wants to talk UFOs, tell him I said hey.
You should go to that conference!
That'd be cool. Kinda sucks, though, when you don't have a newspaper footing the bill anymore. But hey, it'll probably be televised on a C-Span channel, and peanut gallery seats are cheap.
good work, thank you!