The best most relevant content: "it’s difficult to imagine the Deep State or whatever trying to hang Grusch on perjury charges. The discovery motions for classified material his lawyer(s) would need to prepare a proper defense might well threaten the secrets the spooks want to protect."
So there you have it: "We are reluctant to charge you with perjury because it would open up a can of worms on our end, which is the last thing we want"
Billy, take a look at the similarities (red, pulsating lights) between the December 2023 Langley Air Force Base UFO (filmed by Jonathan Butner) (video courtesy of NewsNation) and the UFO (the first UFO) I filmed on 19 December 2019, at 11:00 p.m.
I am of the opinion that a very large UFO (look at the blinking lights on the left side of the screen) and several smaller UFOs checked out Molde’s (Norway) new hospital and new road system in 2019. The area was covered in mist.
Agree.. But try explaining that to the dupes in the media who have permitted Susan Gough to lead them around by the nose on this subject in order for the journalists to get the latest scoops on military affairs.
I followed the link to the Black Vault and I can see Greenewald's point. Grusch appears to have been caught telling a lie about not being approached by AARO.
At the human level, Kirkpatrick (an apparently biased debunker) would have the right to be irritated, but Mellon appears to be acting in good faith, trying to bridge the gap. Abba's memo would seem to be the final word on legality, but from a practical (and possibly legal) point of view, if the DOJ is engaged in an ongoing criminal investigation (potentially involving the Pentagon) and wouldn't normally release testimony, then shouldn't AARO go to the DOJ to present their case for having a copy?
N.b. Grusch was allegedly prevented from giving Congress the same information because Grusch no longer held the right security clearance, (and possibly because members of Congress didn't have the clearance to hear it either) so by those standards and under the very unusual circumstances, AARO should act responsibly and approach the DOJ.
It could also be argued that the Abba memo relates directly to UAP and that non-UAP-specific information remains outside of its purview. If there are individuals who believe they were tasked to reverse engineer 'foreign technology' of unknown origin (without any mention of UAP or NHI in their job description) then would they be compelled to spill the beans on their work including the details of any related SAP(s), even if they 'believed' that the technology was extra-terrestrial? It can be argued that the Abba memo is too narrow in scope to be practically effective, especially where the legal issues have such significant consequences.
Grusch appears to be trying to do the right thing, as well as protect himself and others. There's no reason for AARO (or Kirkpatrick) not to have gone that extra mile.
If AARO had shown even a modicum of good faith, e.g., evaluating the copious data on Stephenville, or Aguadilla, I'd be a lot more inclined to call out Grusch. But it's pretty clear AARO doesn't give a flip about public opinion.
Well, they do seem to want to influence public opinion, rather than present a balanced (or even completely accurate) overview of the historical data.
I can understand why Grusch might not trust AARO or the Pentagon's process.
AARO's investigative powers certainly don't stand up against the DOJ, especially where potential criminal activity is concerned. It's pretty obvious which takes precedence.
(In response to Larry: I still don't trust Elizondo. Not sure I'd believe him if he said that bears poop in the Vatican. Grusch I definitely have a higher opinion of, based on his public comments.)
This sounds a lot like the SCOTUS conversations on the 25th, talking about everything except what really matters, what is really at stake. We are all due a refund of our tax dollars in both cases. I WANT MY MONEY BACK NOW!
Another thoughtful write up by Billy. I have been following the same situation with Grusch and ARRO and believe we still do not have the whole story in regards to their communications between each other. Whatever the case was, still think Kirkpatrick was a hired debunker and probably was not trustworthy. We still have no real confirmation from any other employee of ARRO of what was going on then. In any case, the Langley thing is a real eye opener and deserves a lot more attention as outlined is Billy's post. What also caught my attention was the article in The Debrief "CHINA CLAIMS NEW BREAKTHROUGH IN LASER PROPULSION COULD LEAD TO ULTRAFAST, STEALTH SUBMARINES". If those claims are in fact real, the technology outlined does seem to follow very similar to how many believe UFOs work and operate. The materials used maybe different but the outcome could be similar. In other words, did the Chinese actually try and replicate something 'recovered' with material tech that is currently available? It seems really intriguing to me in the context of how reverse engineering of NHI tech could actually work. The 'claims' of course have not been factually confirmed but it does seem to suggest that others are working on tech that may have come from studying actual recovered technology from 'somewhere' else. It also suggests that human made drones maybe much further along than is publicly known. This could(?) account for the strange response from the Langley event but still just a speculation.
While we don't know SK's motives or agenda, we know for sure the Pentagon wanted no outsiders to go off-script. As for adversaries' potential recovery of NHI tech, I think we can be certain that their spooks and our spooks know more than we do. Stalin was in on the Manhattan Project long before the American people were told. No reason to think the protocols have changed.
The best most relevant content: "it’s difficult to imagine the Deep State or whatever trying to hang Grusch on perjury charges. The discovery motions for classified material his lawyer(s) would need to prepare a proper defense might well threaten the secrets the spooks want to protect."
So there you have it: "We are reluctant to charge you with perjury because it would open up a can of worms on our end, which is the last thing we want"
The 1954 Martin B-57B Canberra bomber UFO photo case proves that the U.S. Department of Defense cannot be trusted when it comes to UFO evidence.
https://ufointel.wordpress.com/2024/05/02/ufo-photo/
Billy, take a look at the similarities (red, pulsating lights) between the December 2023 Langley Air Force Base UFO (filmed by Jonathan Butner) (video courtesy of NewsNation) and the UFO (the first UFO) I filmed on 19 December 2019, at 11:00 p.m.
I am of the opinion that a very large UFO (look at the blinking lights on the left side of the screen) and several smaller UFOs checked out Molde’s (Norway) new hospital and new road system in 2019. The area was covered in mist.
I live in Kleive, Norway.
https://ufointel.wordpress.com/2024/04/29/two-ufo-videos/
Can't pull up the vids on this link, Alfred.
Billy, here's my 2019 UFO video:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj8WXh5qp-k
Wait for the video to load. The video loads very slowly. I never had this problem before.
In my opinion, AARO is beyond redemption.
Agree.. But try explaining that to the dupes in the media who have permitted Susan Gough to lead them around by the nose on this subject in order for the journalists to get the latest scoops on military affairs.
I concur.
A lot of "journalists" these days.
I followed the link to the Black Vault and I can see Greenewald's point. Grusch appears to have been caught telling a lie about not being approached by AARO.
At the human level, Kirkpatrick (an apparently biased debunker) would have the right to be irritated, but Mellon appears to be acting in good faith, trying to bridge the gap. Abba's memo would seem to be the final word on legality, but from a practical (and possibly legal) point of view, if the DOJ is engaged in an ongoing criminal investigation (potentially involving the Pentagon) and wouldn't normally release testimony, then shouldn't AARO go to the DOJ to present their case for having a copy?
N.b. Grusch was allegedly prevented from giving Congress the same information because Grusch no longer held the right security clearance, (and possibly because members of Congress didn't have the clearance to hear it either) so by those standards and under the very unusual circumstances, AARO should act responsibly and approach the DOJ.
It could also be argued that the Abba memo relates directly to UAP and that non-UAP-specific information remains outside of its purview. If there are individuals who believe they were tasked to reverse engineer 'foreign technology' of unknown origin (without any mention of UAP or NHI in their job description) then would they be compelled to spill the beans on their work including the details of any related SAP(s), even if they 'believed' that the technology was extra-terrestrial? It can be argued that the Abba memo is too narrow in scope to be practically effective, especially where the legal issues have such significant consequences.
Grusch appears to be trying to do the right thing, as well as protect himself and others. There's no reason for AARO (or Kirkpatrick) not to have gone that extra mile.
If AARO had shown even a modicum of good faith, e.g., evaluating the copious data on Stephenville, or Aguadilla, I'd be a lot more inclined to call out Grusch. But it's pretty clear AARO doesn't give a flip about public opinion.
Well, they do seem to want to influence public opinion, rather than present a balanced (or even completely accurate) overview of the historical data.
I can understand why Grusch might not trust AARO or the Pentagon's process.
AARO's investigative powers certainly don't stand up against the DOJ, especially where potential criminal activity is concerned. It's pretty obvious which takes precedence.
(In response to Larry: I still don't trust Elizondo. Not sure I'd believe him if he said that bears poop in the Vatican. Grusch I definitely have a higher opinion of, based on his public comments.)
I'm not ready yet to agree with you, regarding the names you referred to
The key word is..."yet"
This sounds a lot like the SCOTUS conversations on the 25th, talking about everything except what really matters, what is really at stake. We are all due a refund of our tax dollars in both cases. I WANT MY MONEY BACK NOW!
Don't get me started on SCOTUS, man.
Another thoughtful write up by Billy. I have been following the same situation with Grusch and ARRO and believe we still do not have the whole story in regards to their communications between each other. Whatever the case was, still think Kirkpatrick was a hired debunker and probably was not trustworthy. We still have no real confirmation from any other employee of ARRO of what was going on then. In any case, the Langley thing is a real eye opener and deserves a lot more attention as outlined is Billy's post. What also caught my attention was the article in The Debrief "CHINA CLAIMS NEW BREAKTHROUGH IN LASER PROPULSION COULD LEAD TO ULTRAFAST, STEALTH SUBMARINES". If those claims are in fact real, the technology outlined does seem to follow very similar to how many believe UFOs work and operate. The materials used maybe different but the outcome could be similar. In other words, did the Chinese actually try and replicate something 'recovered' with material tech that is currently available? It seems really intriguing to me in the context of how reverse engineering of NHI tech could actually work. The 'claims' of course have not been factually confirmed but it does seem to suggest that others are working on tech that may have come from studying actual recovered technology from 'somewhere' else. It also suggests that human made drones maybe much further along than is publicly known. This could(?) account for the strange response from the Langley event but still just a speculation.
While we don't know SK's motives or agenda, we know for sure the Pentagon wanted no outsiders to go off-script. As for adversaries' potential recovery of NHI tech, I think we can be certain that their spooks and our spooks know more than we do. Stalin was in on the Manhattan Project long before the American people were told. No reason to think the protocols have changed.
The sculptor is a Nam vet, still working things out half a century later.