Just reading a bit now from TheUFOJoe on twitter Billy who just refd. your article. That SCU conf. must have been a great meet! Only just recently clicked for me Travis Taylor and Jay Stratton (both now at the same company) worked together at the UAP Task Force and Travis is at Skinwalker. And Stratton went to Skinwalker too. Fascinating interviews with Travis by George Knapp if you heard.
Just listened to Eric Weinstein with Mick West on Curt's TOE. Good God, West is tricky as hell and Eric was utterly serious and deep and clearly has been effected by this subject. He realizes he's been lied to, I believe he means by "government". One odd take away for me. West isn't effected and intelligent enough to know it's all real. I can only conclude disinformation agent either acting alone or with others. And doesn't realise the kind of huge scientific brain he's been talking to. Eric was clearly disturbed by West in places. I was. It was strange and I got the impression West was using his better knowledge of the subject to mess a bit with Eric. And called out Ryan Graves in front of Eric for not talking to him FFS, what a surprise. The guy get's in people's head. Needs a NOTAMS.
I don't know why West is the focus of so much attention on the UFO circuit. He's obviously very technically astute and a clever interlocutor, but he disqualified himself as a meaningful contributor a few years ago when he had the audacity to declare that trained U.S. Navy pilots aren't seeing what they saw. I mean, for shit's sake -- he perpetuates an agenda-driven bias that lines up seamlessly with ideological predecessors such as Phil Klass, Paul Kurtz, Leon Jaroff, and Seth Shostak. Guys like this don't need to get government stipends -- their world view is fragile, and threats to that world view are threats to the ego.
At least outside the circuit he's dismissed. Travis in his role as chief UAP scientist said debunkers like him just haven't the extra data he's been privy to. Otherwise on the circuit a slippery character people have to call out I guess. I like to say he "lies by omission", one tactic. Cheers for reply!
No one alerted me to the strong simultaneous geomagnetic storm activity, man. I'm feeling duped and angry. Let me in on the correlation between that and the Nimitz/Tic Tac.
"The hyper-classification and compartmentalization of UFO evidence by the intelligence community is killing creativity and innovation."
Billy, this really got me a memory from the Oppenheimer (1980) mini-series (you can get all online). Oppenheimer is meeting with General Groves (Army head of the Manhattan Project) for the second time on a train (Groves is worried about scientists talking too much to each other) and Oppie says, "If you cut everybody off from each other you've got security certainly, but, you see, scientific research is basically a collaborative art especially on a project like this. One person may come up with a part of the answer but he won't be able to get there by himself. But another person may have another part of the answer and then a couple of other people will add a little bit more and that's the way it works. But if you have everybody shut off in little departments and separate centres, nobody talking to anybody else..."
The solution suggested by Oppie was a central lab., scientists shut off together at Los Alamos and it worked. But here the cat was in the bag and for good reason. We were at war and it wasn't clear how quickly adversaries could parallel develop (it was later learned the Germans had the same level of knowledge as a graduate student in nuclear physics).
With UAPs the cat is out surely so an obvious solution would be for the National Academy of Sciences to organise open conferences (the independent SCU 22 one worked) in experiment and theory based on the surely 100% stunning data that will be gained over the next year or two. By the by, people like Deep Prasad and his team/company involved in materials aspects could mingle freely with conference attendees.
I also remember in the series Oppie telling Groves on a first meeting at Berkeley that there are no experts in the atomic bomb field because it was all so new. Same with UAPs ... maybe. Surely something is known unofficially. But something now has to give! And soon. Can we at least pretend it's a new field? (politely we won't talk about the USAF). Because surely data will be coming in thick and fast from the new detectors being built at Harvard (I sense a race with NASA and possibly NASA getting shafted - but credit to Bill Nelson) and whatever NASA are up to and the Academy *has* to respond. David Spergel (leading the NASA effort) said "We have to approach all these questions with a sense of humility." I thought an amazing comment from an astrophysicist because you are humble because of something bigger than *yourself*, not from some new galaxy that's been discovered.
And I think the AIAA and Ryan Graves will be key in that engineers really want to get their teeth in - i.e. get something to fly.
Groups like the AIAA will likely have to spend a lot of time playing catchup with efforts conducted in the shadows long ago. But at least, going forward, we can anticipate integrity in the lab.
Very helpful to have some context for Alexander's comment!
Stratton was a surprise bonus - hearing his side of things. (I wonder how tightly he's tied in to the TTSA crowd, if at all?)
I think it was Puthoff, that described starting a UFO (or possibly Psi) project by building a library of reference materials. Of course, that means having to read in order to build an understanding of the current state of affairs... but wasn't that the point of one of Rockefeller's initiatives, to produce a briefing document?
(One would think that Elizondo's 5 year study confirming the '5 observables' would have been of incredible importance in that respect... as a primer for members of Congress.)
What if, at the end of the day, the game-changing energy exploited by UFOs turns out to be something deceptively accessible, for everyone, without patents? Wonder what that might portend for capitalism?
Once again I must shimmy way out on that limb. Your speculation is spot on, as in - that's part of a Plan, man. And it's already being implemented.
As you know, our planet has a magnetic field; its magnetic energy travels in lines and crisscrosses, and where these lines cross a vortex, or 'force center' is formed. My information is that the ET envoys, in creating the 'genuine' crop formations (not just in southern England but around the world) are replicating on the dense-physical plane these magnetic vortices in our planetary magnetic field. These are also being created invisibly on land and in the seas (where there are no crops.) They are doing this in order to make the foundation on the physical plane for a new type of energy, comprised of these magnetic vortices blended with a certain frequency of light from the sun. This will facilitate a completely new type of technology using that energy. There will be large storehouses, or 'batteries,' made in specific shapes. The shapes themselves will be related to the type of energy they store. From these storehouses will come this unlimited power for all our needs. It will be globally abundant, clean, inexhaustible and, just as important, will be freely available for home and hearth, as well as industry, transportation, new medical technologies, even spaceflight.
The capitalist energy corporations, cartels and private utilities will be a sordid chapter in history.
But we must first put our house in order before this "Technology of Light" will become available. Obviously that means putting an end to geopolitical antagonisms and war.
This is not the same as the "zero point" energy certain persons claim has already been developed but is being kept under wraps for selfish purposes. It's completely different, and much more advanced. (Let the eye rolling commence.)
One aspect of "putting our house in order" will necessarily involve a reorganization of the current economic system, based upon a reordering of priorities and values. The commercialization of nearly every thing a human needs to live a decent, dignified, thriving life is a sickness that is poisoning the life-blood and spiritual values of society. The Technology of Light will be given not to create wealth for the few, but prosperity for the many. When this is known and understood worldwide try telling the masses they'll have to pay you to utilize this technology.
Just reading a bit now from TheUFOJoe on twitter Billy who just refd. your article. That SCU conf. must have been a great meet! Only just recently clicked for me Travis Taylor and Jay Stratton (both now at the same company) worked together at the UAP Task Force and Travis is at Skinwalker. And Stratton went to Skinwalker too. Fascinating interviews with Travis by George Knapp if you heard.
Just listened to Eric Weinstein with Mick West on Curt's TOE. Good God, West is tricky as hell and Eric was utterly serious and deep and clearly has been effected by this subject. He realizes he's been lied to, I believe he means by "government". One odd take away for me. West isn't effected and intelligent enough to know it's all real. I can only conclude disinformation agent either acting alone or with others. And doesn't realise the kind of huge scientific brain he's been talking to. Eric was clearly disturbed by West in places. I was. It was strange and I got the impression West was using his better knowledge of the subject to mess a bit with Eric. And called out Ryan Graves in front of Eric for not talking to him FFS, what a surprise. The guy get's in people's head. Needs a NOTAMS.
I don't know why West is the focus of so much attention on the UFO circuit. He's obviously very technically astute and a clever interlocutor, but he disqualified himself as a meaningful contributor a few years ago when he had the audacity to declare that trained U.S. Navy pilots aren't seeing what they saw. I mean, for shit's sake -- he perpetuates an agenda-driven bias that lines up seamlessly with ideological predecessors such as Phil Klass, Paul Kurtz, Leon Jaroff, and Seth Shostak. Guys like this don't need to get government stipends -- their world view is fragile, and threats to that world view are threats to the ego.
At least outside the circuit he's dismissed. Travis in his role as chief UAP scientist said debunkers like him just haven't the extra data he's been privy to. Otherwise on the circuit a slippery character people have to call out I guess. I like to say he "lies by omission", one tactic. Cheers for reply!
I read your https://www.sciencenews.org/article/ufo-science-research-uap-congress-pentagon?fbclid=IwAR1sUj8hj2K09ksXs4EQTLWJVCkjrahnsHxE7i4n018r6tH9P2JtddUgUMA What surprises me about so-called UFO experts is their utter bias and incompetence, including the one you interviewed. Here is an example: watched https://www.uap.guide/path/the-nimitz-encounters Remarkably not a single mention that the event occurred at the time of extreme geomagnetic storms. According to https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/en/auroral-activity/top-50-geomagnetic-storms.html , 7 of the 10 most powerful geomag storms occurred in 2003/10/29 - 2004/11/10 If you want to solve a mystery, you need to know all the facts, otherwise is utterly misleading. Not a single story about the Nimitz event mentions that. Why? Has anyone told you that? Have you even been aware of that? There is more than enough data about UAP in the public domain, but the "experts" are too blind to see it.
No one alerted me to the strong simultaneous geomagnetic storm activity, man. I'm feeling duped and angry. Let me in on the correlation between that and the Nimitz/Tic Tac.
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Thank you Billy for a very well written article that summarized the overall SCU conference. As always, it was great seeing you in person again!
Thanks for bringing honest science into the public domain, Robert.
"The hyper-classification and compartmentalization of UFO evidence by the intelligence community is killing creativity and innovation."
Billy, this really got me a memory from the Oppenheimer (1980) mini-series (you can get all online). Oppenheimer is meeting with General Groves (Army head of the Manhattan Project) for the second time on a train (Groves is worried about scientists talking too much to each other) and Oppie says, "If you cut everybody off from each other you've got security certainly, but, you see, scientific research is basically a collaborative art especially on a project like this. One person may come up with a part of the answer but he won't be able to get there by himself. But another person may have another part of the answer and then a couple of other people will add a little bit more and that's the way it works. But if you have everybody shut off in little departments and separate centres, nobody talking to anybody else..."
The solution suggested by Oppie was a central lab., scientists shut off together at Los Alamos and it worked. But here the cat was in the bag and for good reason. We were at war and it wasn't clear how quickly adversaries could parallel develop (it was later learned the Germans had the same level of knowledge as a graduate student in nuclear physics).
With UAPs the cat is out surely so an obvious solution would be for the National Academy of Sciences to organise open conferences (the independent SCU 22 one worked) in experiment and theory based on the surely 100% stunning data that will be gained over the next year or two. By the by, people like Deep Prasad and his team/company involved in materials aspects could mingle freely with conference attendees.
I also remember in the series Oppie telling Groves on a first meeting at Berkeley that there are no experts in the atomic bomb field because it was all so new. Same with UAPs ... maybe. Surely something is known unofficially. But something now has to give! And soon. Can we at least pretend it's a new field? (politely we won't talk about the USAF). Because surely data will be coming in thick and fast from the new detectors being built at Harvard (I sense a race with NASA and possibly NASA getting shafted - but credit to Bill Nelson) and whatever NASA are up to and the Academy *has* to respond. David Spergel (leading the NASA effort) said "We have to approach all these questions with a sense of humility." I thought an amazing comment from an astrophysicist because you are humble because of something bigger than *yourself*, not from some new galaxy that's been discovered.
And I think the AIAA and Ryan Graves will be key in that engineers really want to get their teeth in - i.e. get something to fly.
Groups like the AIAA will likely have to spend a lot of time playing catchup with efforts conducted in the shadows long ago. But at least, going forward, we can anticipate integrity in the lab.
Absolutely! Something to look forward to. Thank you for the article.
Very helpful to have some context for Alexander's comment!
Stratton was a surprise bonus - hearing his side of things. (I wonder how tightly he's tied in to the TTSA crowd, if at all?)
I think it was Puthoff, that described starting a UFO (or possibly Psi) project by building a library of reference materials. Of course, that means having to read in order to build an understanding of the current state of affairs... but wasn't that the point of one of Rockefeller's initiatives, to produce a briefing document?
(One would think that Elizondo's 5 year study confirming the '5 observables' would have been of incredible importance in that respect... as a primer for members of Congress.)
A worldwide database that scientific investigators could draw from and contribute to is so logical it's farcical that one doesn't yet exist.
Wasted time and research effort could potentially be avoided by having access to something of that breadth.
Next to over classification, I see another impediment: an unspoken but clearly evident atmosphere of competition rather than cooperation.
What if, at the end of the day, the game-changing energy exploited by UFOs turns out to be something deceptively accessible, for everyone, without patents? Wonder what that might portend for capitalism?
Once again I must shimmy way out on that limb. Your speculation is spot on, as in - that's part of a Plan, man. And it's already being implemented.
As you know, our planet has a magnetic field; its magnetic energy travels in lines and crisscrosses, and where these lines cross a vortex, or 'force center' is formed. My information is that the ET envoys, in creating the 'genuine' crop formations (not just in southern England but around the world) are replicating on the dense-physical plane these magnetic vortices in our planetary magnetic field. These are also being created invisibly on land and in the seas (where there are no crops.) They are doing this in order to make the foundation on the physical plane for a new type of energy, comprised of these magnetic vortices blended with a certain frequency of light from the sun. This will facilitate a completely new type of technology using that energy. There will be large storehouses, or 'batteries,' made in specific shapes. The shapes themselves will be related to the type of energy they store. From these storehouses will come this unlimited power for all our needs. It will be globally abundant, clean, inexhaustible and, just as important, will be freely available for home and hearth, as well as industry, transportation, new medical technologies, even spaceflight.
The capitalist energy corporations, cartels and private utilities will be a sordid chapter in history.
But we must first put our house in order before this "Technology of Light" will become available. Obviously that means putting an end to geopolitical antagonisms and war.
This is not the same as the "zero point" energy certain persons claim has already been developed but is being kept under wraps for selfish purposes. It's completely different, and much more advanced. (Let the eye rolling commence.)
Gotta be a way for "Technology of Light" to create wealth; otherwise, its motives are suspect.
One aspect of "putting our house in order" will necessarily involve a reorganization of the current economic system, based upon a reordering of priorities and values. The commercialization of nearly every thing a human needs to live a decent, dignified, thriving life is a sickness that is poisoning the life-blood and spiritual values of society. The Technology of Light will be given not to create wealth for the few, but prosperity for the many. When this is known and understood worldwide try telling the masses they'll have to pay you to utilize this technology.