And now fmr Chief Kevin Day wants formal vindication. "“I was laughed at, mocked, and talked about behind closed doors within [the Department of Defense] whenever I tried to describe what we had seen off [the coast of Southern California] in 2004." Navy veteran mocked over UFO sightings demands public apology from Defense Department. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/tic-tac-ufo-navy-mocked-b1874089.html
Career pols are beginning to realize that pushing this issue won't cost them any political capital. I can actually envision some grandstanding, although I'm not sure they've thought through the potential long-tem repercussions.
That could be good but I'm afraid every time Fox News or Tucker Carlson shoot their mouths off on this issue they're hurting the cause. Tucker will turn it into a red/blue issue. I hear that FoxNews and TMZ are going to do something on this tonight? Please God, no!
Here's another conclusion: Dennis Kucinich, and the countless other witnesses who've been ridiculed by the mainstream media for having the cahones to talk about their sightings, is owed an apology. Actually, the MSM ought to acknowledge it's historical collaboration in creating the stigma in the first place. I don't care that it's a new generation of reporters, the UFO stigma, the Great Taboo as Billy calls it, can be directly attributed to elite media cooperating with military/intelligence agencies who instituted a program of denial and ridicule in the late 1950's. It's time for some "mea culpas" by the press. Who will have the guts to do that?
I am convinced that many officers within the U.S. Department of Defense (and within other militaries) strongly suspect that these things are not from here.
Curious...how life's ironies can comically find a way into profound circumstances. In 12/17 the balloon went up. In 6/21 the deflating balloon was the only definitive conclusion.
The report is a large, double-patty nothing-burger. Nothing about Nimitz or the Roosevelt incidents. I wonder what's in the Classified report. I didn't expect much, but I did expect more than we got.
The military establishment wasn't going to change its behaviour over night, so this is exactly what one might expect from a report (written by guys with zero funding) designed to nudge a leviathan in a new direction.
The report is frustrating for us because:
1. We are grounded in a great deal more UFO history and knowledge of incredible events.
2. Leaks apparently intended to limit expectations missed the mark quite widely.
3. Of no mention of Elizondo's AATIP, its alleged research, records and analyses; despite the problems encountered by UAPTF in exactly this regard. Wouldn't those records have been a treasure trove, assuming they exist? (Potential analysis of historical radar data was mentioned, so why not AATIP's work?)
4. No mention of the incredible Nimitz encounter, despite the UAPTF timescale starting from the year of that incident - even though someone included a deflated balloon example!
Will we learn, sometime later, that the report was reduced by higher powers? Or were 9 pages always on the cards given the limitations of UAPTF?
And now fmr Chief Kevin Day wants formal vindication. "“I was laughed at, mocked, and talked about behind closed doors within [the Department of Defense] whenever I tried to describe what we had seen off [the coast of Southern California] in 2004." Navy veteran mocked over UFO sightings demands public apology from Defense Department. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/tic-tac-ufo-navy-mocked-b1874089.html
So what's going to happen next? Does anyone think Congressional hearings might generate more revelations or will they be held behind closed doors?
Career pols are beginning to realize that pushing this issue won't cost them any political capital. I can actually envision some grandstanding, although I'm not sure they've thought through the potential long-tem repercussions.
That could be good but I'm afraid every time Fox News or Tucker Carlson shoot their mouths off on this issue they're hurting the cause. Tucker will turn it into a red/blue issue. I hear that FoxNews and TMZ are going to do something on this tonight? Please God, no!
Here's another conclusion: Dennis Kucinich, and the countless other witnesses who've been ridiculed by the mainstream media for having the cahones to talk about their sightings, is owed an apology. Actually, the MSM ought to acknowledge it's historical collaboration in creating the stigma in the first place. I don't care that it's a new generation of reporters, the UFO stigma, the Great Taboo as Billy calls it, can be directly attributed to elite media cooperating with military/intelligence agencies who instituted a program of denial and ridicule in the late 1950's. It's time for some "mea culpas" by the press. Who will have the guts to do that?
Do you truly believe that the MS News media will collectively apologize and acknowledge that they made a mistake
Unless someone with media credibility publishes or broadcasts an undeniable expose of their complicity... NO.
I am convinced that many officers within the U.S. Department of Defense (and within other militaries) strongly suspect that these things are not from here.
Curious...how life's ironies can comically find a way into profound circumstances. In 12/17 the balloon went up. In 6/21 the deflating balloon was the only definitive conclusion.
The report is a large, double-patty nothing-burger. Nothing about Nimitz or the Roosevelt incidents. I wonder what's in the Classified report. I didn't expect much, but I did expect more than we got.
The military establishment wasn't going to change its behaviour over night, so this is exactly what one might expect from a report (written by guys with zero funding) designed to nudge a leviathan in a new direction.
The report is frustrating for us because:
1. We are grounded in a great deal more UFO history and knowledge of incredible events.
2. Leaks apparently intended to limit expectations missed the mark quite widely.
3. Of no mention of Elizondo's AATIP, its alleged research, records and analyses; despite the problems encountered by UAPTF in exactly this regard. Wouldn't those records have been a treasure trove, assuming they exist? (Potential analysis of historical radar data was mentioned, so why not AATIP's work?)
4. No mention of the incredible Nimitz encounter, despite the UAPTF timescale starting from the year of that incident - even though someone included a deflated balloon example!
Will we learn, sometime later, that the report was reduced by higher powers? Or were 9 pages always on the cards given the limitations of UAPTF?
Of course, most of us understand the crown jewels are kept in the "other" bin.