It could be argued that UFOlogy has been the most successful issue in regard to forcing a government to 'look again', even though the result has always been another blatant cover up of the pertinent facts.
The findings of a Canadian university that modelled the collapse of WTC building 7 and pointed out errors in the NTSB report, weren't enough to reopen an official inquiry. Nor were the observations of the doctors that were the first to treat JFK.
Perhaps what's needed is a law that stipulates that when expert opinion (or peer review) finds a serious flaw or relevant omission in an official finding, an inquiry should be reopened. But there are times when a government needs us not to know, for the greater good - official secrets.
I found the link below, one report that investigates the effectiveness of protests:
One part stood out to me: "Our research showed that factors largely outside the Social Movement Organisation’s control – things like pre-existing public opinion, supportive elites, media environment, and luck – play a big part in determining the success of a protest movement."
Not a whole lot of surprises in the summary, but always good to have stats to support what appears to be obvious. It'd be interesting to know what constitutes "luck" and how it impacted the objective. Depending on what happens here in November, the effectiveness of violence may have to be revisited, unfortunately.
"But there are times when a government needs us not to know, for the greater good"
Statism versus Populism. That's where the rubber meets the road.
The statists completely rely on there being a large enough percentage of the general populace being gullible enough to believe in the facade that the government is always working in the best interests of the people.
But now there's a growing number of people who are realizing that The Emperor Has No Clothes. That's very bad news for the statists. So, mark my words. They are going to pull out all the stops to try to maintain their power.
There have been numerous examples of mad dictators around the world who believe they are the best thing for their country, and even more plain old corruption. Does that apply to the higher ranks of the civil services and military as well?
It seems that there are pro-UFO people employed by the government, so we wouldn't be wrong in expecting a mix of everything.
I haven't been able to find any data on the levels of prosecutions of public sector employees vs private sector.
Okay, you got me there; as a public sector employee I have to admit that. But it's rare to find anyone who really questions life as we know it. Mediocrity is a global pursuit even when it comes to UFOs; it appears that many are curious, but few are curious enough overcome the taboo.
Which is why most people never even consider taking a deep dive into anything that doesn't fall within the narrow confines of materialism. Much less question what they perceive to be life.
The reason it's going to be an uphill struggle to get to the tipping point is because of the thick and pervasive clouds of shame that have tainted the atmosphere for decades. Statistically, I am curious about the impact of the video files posted by the NYT. All of that requiring research beyond my knowhow.
Well, you're right. In the study Freeman cited, one of the key factors in successful protests is the very broad term, "favourable sociopolitical context." Even after generations of accumulated data, I'm not sure we're there yet.
Don't let the name Tucker Carlson put you off. This is an interview with Prof. Jeffrey Sachs that plays into what Jim Garrison is saying about our government in spades. (Sorry if that expression in not pc.) The Prof doesn't address the UFO issue but what he says may explain why it's not dealt with. This is over 2 hours. I had no intention of listening to it all but was mesmerized. Apologies if this is not an appropriate post. Hey, I'm old. I do these things.
Just finished listening. It's a challenging interview, and difficult to hear. I'd like to see how Sachs would fare against Anne Applebaum instead of Tucker Carlson, but his larger talking points do go to the dysfunction at the heart of the national security state. And I don't see anything short of the nonpartisan leverage that UFOs bring to table that's capable of triggering lucid and long overdue oversight into that space. Thanks for the link.
Billy, here's a great UFO UpDates post by Ed Komarek.
https://web.archive.org/web/20111018225945/http://ufoupdateslist.com/1997/apr/m11-029.shtml
The American people have the right to see the U.S. government UFO videos and photos, minus the secret technical data, of course.
In the meantime, take a look at this Popocatépetl UFO video.
https://ufointel.wordpress.com/2024/06/11/ufo-video-3/
"... (All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office), which is using public money to run an active disinformation campaign against Americans."
BINGO!
It could be argued that UFOlogy has been the most successful issue in regard to forcing a government to 'look again', even though the result has always been another blatant cover up of the pertinent facts.
The findings of a Canadian university that modelled the collapse of WTC building 7 and pointed out errors in the NTSB report, weren't enough to reopen an official inquiry. Nor were the observations of the doctors that were the first to treat JFK.
Perhaps what's needed is a law that stipulates that when expert opinion (or peer review) finds a serious flaw or relevant omission in an official finding, an inquiry should be reopened. But there are times when a government needs us not to know, for the greater good - official secrets.
I found the link below, one report that investigates the effectiveness of protests:
https://commonslibrary.org/protest-movements-how-effective-are-they/
One part stood out to me: "Our research showed that factors largely outside the Social Movement Organisation’s control – things like pre-existing public opinion, supportive elites, media environment, and luck – play a big part in determining the success of a protest movement."
Not a whole lot of surprises in the summary, but always good to have stats to support what appears to be obvious. It'd be interesting to know what constitutes "luck" and how it impacted the objective. Depending on what happens here in November, the effectiveness of violence may have to be revisited, unfortunately.
"But there are times when a government needs us not to know, for the greater good"
Statism versus Populism. That's where the rubber meets the road.
The statists completely rely on there being a large enough percentage of the general populace being gullible enough to believe in the facade that the government is always working in the best interests of the people.
But now there's a growing number of people who are realizing that The Emperor Has No Clothes. That's very bad news for the statists. So, mark my words. They are going to pull out all the stops to try to maintain their power.
There have been numerous examples of mad dictators around the world who believe they are the best thing for their country, and even more plain old corruption. Does that apply to the higher ranks of the civil services and military as well?
It seems that there are pro-UFO people employed by the government, so we wouldn't be wrong in expecting a mix of everything.
I haven't been able to find any data on the levels of prosecutions of public sector employees vs private sector.
Most public sector employees spend their entire careers striving for mediocrity, instead of excellence.
So, all they really care about is getting a paycheck and benefits.
Okay, you got me there; as a public sector employee I have to admit that. But it's rare to find anyone who really questions life as we know it. Mediocrity is a global pursuit even when it comes to UFOs; it appears that many are curious, but few are curious enough overcome the taboo.
It's definitely a global pursuit.
Which is why most people never even consider taking a deep dive into anything that doesn't fall within the narrow confines of materialism. Much less question what they perceive to be life.
The reason it's going to be an uphill struggle to get to the tipping point is because of the thick and pervasive clouds of shame that have tainted the atmosphere for decades. Statistically, I am curious about the impact of the video files posted by the NYT. All of that requiring research beyond my knowhow.
Well, you're right. In the study Freeman cited, one of the key factors in successful protests is the very broad term, "favourable sociopolitical context." Even after generations of accumulated data, I'm not sure we're there yet.
Don't let the name Tucker Carlson put you off. This is an interview with Prof. Jeffrey Sachs that plays into what Jim Garrison is saying about our government in spades. (Sorry if that expression in not pc.) The Prof doesn't address the UFO issue but what he says may explain why it's not dealt with. This is over 2 hours. I had no intention of listening to it all but was mesmerized. Apologies if this is not an appropriate post. Hey, I'm old. I do these things.
https://x.com/tuckercarlson/status/1795500379578253729?s=42
Just finished listening. It's a challenging interview, and difficult to hear. I'd like to see how Sachs would fare against Anne Applebaum instead of Tucker Carlson, but his larger talking points do go to the dysfunction at the heart of the national security state. And I don't see anything short of the nonpartisan leverage that UFOs bring to table that's capable of triggering lucid and long overdue oversight into that space. Thanks for the link.
Love the effort of those folks on the streets.
Me too. And I think The Flowerettes should be the house band.