As I implied I was new to this level of detail, a more welcoming response would have been something like, "You may want to read what Bob Salas has to say about this. You can find this at https://www.XXXXXXX." As I understand what Leslie Kean, James Fox, our beloved Billy, & numerous others are after includes vastly widening the supportive audience. Insiders can perform an invaluable function in reaching this goal by welcoming and informing. I'm here to learn more & bring my perspective to the conversation. One thing I know from training and experience is that to progress we have to eschew the powerful social demand to win, dominate, be the best because this inevitably leads to others feeling rejected, shamed, unacceptable, which becomes the source for so much conflict. Consider, if you will, the likely arrogance of those guarding all of these secrets from billions of people! Imagine what that must feel like. Their specialness will be destroyed by anything approaching full disclosure. This is why we cannot do that to each other even though our automatic responses lead us in that direction.
So, we are now learning that (OMG) the entire development of our nuclear program has been under constant surveillance and even some interference by flocks of UFOs/UAPs/WTFIT? Or at least many more of us? There is a stark message being communicated. (WTFIT: What the fuck is THAT?)
I'm relatively new to this level of information, and I'm guessing there are a lot of people who know something but not at this level. I'm about to be 79, live in a residential facility and a very alert 89-year-old & I share this as one of our common foci. My Ph.D. included study of Alfred North Whitehead's Process Philosophy. ANW was a mathematician, physicist, & philosopher. A contemporary of Einstein, he reversed what was primary -- not objects but the subjective process of becoming an object, wherein all interconnections exist. Opens the gates to all sorts of events.
I haven't ever taken a deep dive into Whitehead's work. But my personal credo for years has been there is no such thing as luck or coincidence, and nothing is random. So his Process Philosophy jibes well with that.
I never thought about what the DoE might know about the phenomenon.
But after reading this it makes perfect sense. Especially when you factor in how the massive oil and gas industry would react to the knowledge of what type of energy source(s) are used to power extraterrestrial craft.
Afterall, when you boil it all down, money always talks, and everything else walks.
Just a Sunday morning thought here....If those who are actively working to bring all the UAP info to light really want to legitimize their message they need to get their views back in the NYT, WaPo, 60 Minutes or the network news, ABC, CBS or NBC. They shouldn't be satisfied with the current outlets who are carrying their message. Unfortunately those outlets are viewed as partisan, including the ones I mentioned previously. Those who want to keep the wraps on this story will try to turn this into a red/blue story. The ramifications of what Billy is writing about here are fucking enormous. Most of the American public has no faith in their government or elected officials. If it turns out we've been lied to for 70 or eighty years the craziness and divisiveness we see in American life now will get worse.
That's been my concern all along. Much of the transparency momentum is being generated by anti-government anti-democracy sentiment. Gaetz, Burchett, Virginia Foxx and Andy Biggs all voted to decertify the 2020 presidential election, and as we dig deeper into the extent of the UFO coverup, I'm anticipating a growing clamor to eviscerate the executive branch (unless, of course, we elect another so-called "strongman"). Between now and then, however, I'm holding my nose and developing tunnel vision, in hopes that whatever we discover at the heart of that coverup will unite us in ways that are beyond our imagination. But without a united front on this one issue, we won't get there at all.
You and Gino echo what bothers me about the whole UFO situation. I leave the science and tech stuff to others. My focus in on the political ramifications. Those who have no faith in our institutions will follow Trumpers and his minions. The military/industrial complex will interpret this phenomenon as a threat and play on fear demanding more money for the Pentagon. Either way we the people lose.
Many years ago the highest levels of the MIC went from interpreting the phenomenon as a threat to using it as an opportunity to further consolidate its power and control over the citizenry.
Anyone expecting altruistic motivations from those people (including the recent spate of so-called "whistleblowers") is just another chump getting played.
As to the political ramifications. Apparently you've failed to notice that there are now a lot of people who are not "Trumpers" who have zero faith in our institutions. Many of whom are former Democrats who became completely disillusioned after 8 years of Barry the Grifter being in office.
History would suggest. For better or worse, however, there is no historical precedent for this moment. And we can't turn away from it. If we do, the legislative branch is dead and should be dissolved. What we still have right now is a choice, between fear and hope. Since they haven't blown our irredeemable asses to smithereens yet, I'm *very* cautiously leaning towards the latter.
Would I could join you in being "very" cautiously leaning towards hope. Maybe it's my age but I've become quite cynical. All governments, empires, etc expire at some point. Perhaps ours has passed it's expiration date. Of course there's that old pendulum it's still swinging. ;-)
I would count on the fact that the unfolding of the full story would be so compelling that these small minded people will have no real control over how things unfold. There is a tremendous amount of energy that has been sealed off fo a long time. I'm not big on seeing radical changes across generations, except there seems to be a greater sense of enjoyment of diversity in today's young adults. Whether that endures, tho, is an open question.
How's this for a Sunday evening thought Billy? I had my daughter's family over for dinner. My son-in-law is a West Point grad, worked mostly in intelligence. The grandkids went out to player with my neighbor's children. My neighbor is a West Point grad too, Infantry and some Intelligence. I asked them both about Grusch. My son-in-law said he doesn't know much, but my neighbor said he was blown away by his testimony. My neighbor added he talked to some of his classmates from West Point who are currently still serving in intelligence and they all believe Grusch completely. I already believed the guy but it's good the know others who know more believe him too! Hope you're feeling better Billy. Take care.....
Well, I was never going to write about this but at this point, what the hell! There's someone I know in my hometown who is related to a retired, former Board Member of a large, well-known aero-space company. Her brother-in-law has been in the defense industry his entire life. She went to visit her sister and Mr. X a few weeks ago on the East Coast. Before she left I told her all about Grusch. I suggested she ask her brother-in-law about his allegations. Well, she did. His response, "I told them they needed to tell the American public about that a long time ago!" I'm assuming "them" were the other Board Members or maybe the U.S. Government. If I were a reporter chasing this story I'd zero in on the current and former Board Members of Boeing, Lockheed Martin and Grumman. Those people might be in some legal trouble! Have a great day Billy!
"At one point, the Manhattan Project employed nearly 130,000 workers, and nobody was more surprised than Tojo when Japan got nuked twice."
I never did buy the "can't keep a secret" idea that's the critics' mantra. If you've got a leak, and you're the security service, you release disinfo to mix in with the real stuff, then everyone thinks it's all hooey. The truth has always been out there (whatever that ultimately boils down to), it's just that it comes with a lot of crap surrounding it. Same goes for crashed saucers and the question of how can advanced alien life be so careless: it's our stuff being recovered, aliens are the cover story. (I'm not pushing this as the answer, merely advancing one counter to the question.)
The irony with the Manhattan Project was, Stalin knew about it before the American taxpayers did. Wonder what else our adversaries know about our hidden assets that we don't. Probably enough for at least few Pulitzer Prizes.
Once again, great writing Billy. Very informative about something of which I knew very little. I could have ended that sentence in a preposition but decided not .
As I implied I was new to this level of detail, a more welcoming response would have been something like, "You may want to read what Bob Salas has to say about this. You can find this at https://www.XXXXXXX." As I understand what Leslie Kean, James Fox, our beloved Billy, & numerous others are after includes vastly widening the supportive audience. Insiders can perform an invaluable function in reaching this goal by welcoming and informing. I'm here to learn more & bring my perspective to the conversation. One thing I know from training and experience is that to progress we have to eschew the powerful social demand to win, dominate, be the best because this inevitably leads to others feeling rejected, shamed, unacceptable, which becomes the source for so much conflict. Consider, if you will, the likely arrogance of those guarding all of these secrets from billions of people! Imagine what that must feel like. Their specialness will be destroyed by anything approaching full disclosure. This is why we cannot do that to each other even though our automatic responses lead us in that direction.
So, we are now learning that (OMG) the entire development of our nuclear program has been under constant surveillance and even some interference by flocks of UFOs/UAPs/WTFIT? Or at least many more of us? There is a stark message being communicated. (WTFIT: What the fuck is THAT?)
Bob Salas has been talking about this for years.
I'm relatively new to this level of information, and I'm guessing there are a lot of people who know something but not at this level. I'm about to be 79, live in a residential facility and a very alert 89-year-old & I share this as one of our common foci. My Ph.D. included study of Alfred North Whitehead's Process Philosophy. ANW was a mathematician, physicist, & philosopher. A contemporary of Einstein, he reversed what was primary -- not objects but the subjective process of becoming an object, wherein all interconnections exist. Opens the gates to all sorts of events.
I haven't ever taken a deep dive into Whitehead's work. But my personal credo for years has been there is no such thing as luck or coincidence, and nothing is random. So his Process Philosophy jibes well with that.
Are you familiar with Dr. Dean Radin?
"Entangled Minds
Extrasensory Experiences in a Quantum Reality"
https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Entangled-Minds/Dean-Radin/9781439187937
No, but I'll take a look at it. Thank you!
I never thought about what the DoE might know about the phenomenon.
But after reading this it makes perfect sense. Especially when you factor in how the massive oil and gas industry would react to the knowledge of what type of energy source(s) are used to power extraterrestrial craft.
Afterall, when you boil it all down, money always talks, and everything else walks.
Just a Sunday morning thought here....If those who are actively working to bring all the UAP info to light really want to legitimize their message they need to get their views back in the NYT, WaPo, 60 Minutes or the network news, ABC, CBS or NBC. They shouldn't be satisfied with the current outlets who are carrying their message. Unfortunately those outlets are viewed as partisan, including the ones I mentioned previously. Those who want to keep the wraps on this story will try to turn this into a red/blue story. The ramifications of what Billy is writing about here are fucking enormous. Most of the American public has no faith in their government or elected officials. If it turns out we've been lied to for 70 or eighty years the craziness and divisiveness we see in American life now will get worse.
That's been my concern all along. Much of the transparency momentum is being generated by anti-government anti-democracy sentiment. Gaetz, Burchett, Virginia Foxx and Andy Biggs all voted to decertify the 2020 presidential election, and as we dig deeper into the extent of the UFO coverup, I'm anticipating a growing clamor to eviscerate the executive branch (unless, of course, we elect another so-called "strongman"). Between now and then, however, I'm holding my nose and developing tunnel vision, in hopes that whatever we discover at the heart of that coverup will unite us in ways that are beyond our imagination. But without a united front on this one issue, we won't get there at all.
You and Gino echo what bothers me about the whole UFO situation. I leave the science and tech stuff to others. My focus in on the political ramifications. Those who have no faith in our institutions will follow Trumpers and his minions. The military/industrial complex will interpret this phenomenon as a threat and play on fear demanding more money for the Pentagon. Either way we the people lose.
Many years ago the highest levels of the MIC went from interpreting the phenomenon as a threat to using it as an opportunity to further consolidate its power and control over the citizenry.
Anyone expecting altruistic motivations from those people (including the recent spate of so-called "whistleblowers") is just another chump getting played.
As to the political ramifications. Apparently you've failed to notice that there are now a lot of people who are not "Trumpers" who have zero faith in our institutions. Many of whom are former Democrats who became completely disillusioned after 8 years of Barry the Grifter being in office.
History would suggest. For better or worse, however, there is no historical precedent for this moment. And we can't turn away from it. If we do, the legislative branch is dead and should be dissolved. What we still have right now is a choice, between fear and hope. Since they haven't blown our irredeemable asses to smithereens yet, I'm *very* cautiously leaning towards the latter.
Would I could join you in being "very" cautiously leaning towards hope. Maybe it's my age but I've become quite cynical. All governments, empires, etc expire at some point. Perhaps ours has passed it's expiration date. Of course there's that old pendulum it's still swinging. ;-)
I would count on the fact that the unfolding of the full story would be so compelling that these small minded people will have no real control over how things unfold. There is a tremendous amount of energy that has been sealed off fo a long time. I'm not big on seeing radical changes across generations, except there seems to be a greater sense of enjoyment of diversity in today's young adults. Whether that endures, tho, is an open question.
How's this for a Sunday evening thought Billy? I had my daughter's family over for dinner. My son-in-law is a West Point grad, worked mostly in intelligence. The grandkids went out to player with my neighbor's children. My neighbor is a West Point grad too, Infantry and some Intelligence. I asked them both about Grusch. My son-in-law said he doesn't know much, but my neighbor said he was blown away by his testimony. My neighbor added he talked to some of his classmates from West Point who are currently still serving in intelligence and they all believe Grusch completely. I already believed the guy but it's good the know others who know more believe him too! Hope you're feeling better Billy. Take care.....
Thank you!
So far so good, Gino, thanks. Glad to know at least a few people are paying attention.
Well, I was never going to write about this but at this point, what the hell! There's someone I know in my hometown who is related to a retired, former Board Member of a large, well-known aero-space company. Her brother-in-law has been in the defense industry his entire life. She went to visit her sister and Mr. X a few weeks ago on the East Coast. Before she left I told her all about Grusch. I suggested she ask her brother-in-law about his allegations. Well, she did. His response, "I told them they needed to tell the American public about that a long time ago!" I'm assuming "them" were the other Board Members or maybe the U.S. Government. If I were a reporter chasing this story I'd zero in on the current and former Board Members of Boeing, Lockheed Martin and Grumman. Those people might be in some legal trouble! Have a great day Billy!
"At one point, the Manhattan Project employed nearly 130,000 workers, and nobody was more surprised than Tojo when Japan got nuked twice."
I never did buy the "can't keep a secret" idea that's the critics' mantra. If you've got a leak, and you're the security service, you release disinfo to mix in with the real stuff, then everyone thinks it's all hooey. The truth has always been out there (whatever that ultimately boils down to), it's just that it comes with a lot of crap surrounding it. Same goes for crashed saucers and the question of how can advanced alien life be so careless: it's our stuff being recovered, aliens are the cover story. (I'm not pushing this as the answer, merely advancing one counter to the question.)
The irony with the Manhattan Project was, Stalin knew about it before the American taxpayers did. Wonder what else our adversaries know about our hidden assets that we don't. Probably enough for at least few Pulitzer Prizes.
I thought your question appropriate. I know Dr. Woodruff would agree :-)
Your famous Billy. How many reporters are out there today that have met and traded words with Teller? Not many, I suspect.
It's always the road not taken, right? Would love to have had that one back!
Hi Billy. Did I read that article correctly? You spoke at the same meeting as Teller and talked to him?
Well, I managed to get that *one* question in before he flew off in a huff. So long ago and far away . . .
Once again, great writing Billy. Very informative about something of which I knew very little. I could have ended that sentence in a preposition but decided not .
The standards around here are pretty slack, man. We even allow double negatives.